// cleaned transcript · Oct 14, 2026
Parker Brown: the conversation
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L1Nix: What's up, man?
L2Nix: Hey, Parker, what's up, brother?
L3Nix: I got— you got your mute on, bro.
L4Nix: There we go.
L5Parker: Let's go unmute, mute video.
L6Parker: Okay.
L7Parker: Beautiful, beautiful.
L8Nix: The— the original Omarchy Propagandist is here.
L9Nix: Woo-hoo!
L10Parker: Yeah, one day it'll be OG. For now, we're just, uh, we're just living in the future, holding on for dear life.
L11Nix: I think you already claimed the spot, bro.
L12Parker: Yeah.
L13Parker: Here we go.
L14Parker: Yeah.
L15Parker: Yeah, I mean, uh, I took my—took my lead off of, uh, oh jeez, we've got some real beasts in the—in the community just saying, you know, uh, you can just go build it. Just go do the thing.
L16Nix: Yeah.
L17Nix: Wow.
L18Nix: Yeah.
L19Parker: Who's the fella that did the logo? Was it Reya?
L20Parker: Nea?
L21Nix: Yeah. Yeah.
L22Parker: Yeah, so.
L23Nix: Um, so let me just get some stuff out of the way. I am recording this, and I will publish your story on Omarchy Builders and promote you as a f****** rock star that you
L24Parker: All good.
L25Nix: are. I just want to get a verbal okay that you're okay with me putting your stuff out there.
L26Nix: So say whatever you want at the very end; I'll ask you, is there anything that you want to exclude? So I want you to feel comfortable that, you know, I'll take anything out that you want.
L27Nix: And let's go from there. You're the 8th person, so let me tell you how this started.
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L30Nix: me to a guy in Singapore that I'd Zoomed with called James. And they're both up on the Omarchy.
L31Nix: builder site. The website's actually Omarchy Builders, with no dot com, which is pretty, pretty cool.
L32Parker: Oh, nice.
L33Nix: And then it just occurred to me to put a calendar out there and just take all takers. Interesting thing was, I posted that at 1:00 a.
L34Nix: m., and I woke up the next morning at 6:30, and I had 30-something scheduled. And I actually had to start limiting them because I had days.
L35Nix: With no breaks, which is awesome.
L36Parker: Yeah, that's right.
L37Nix: So— so man, you look super dynamic. I see— I see horns, I think, from deer.
L38Nix: I see a climbing wall. I see tech everywhere.
L39Nix: Like, who the f*** are you?
L40Parker: Yeah, that's right.
L41Nix: Awesome.
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L76Nix: I've never heard that one. That's good.
L77Nix: That's quotable.
L78Parker: Yeah, so.
L79Nix: So where exactly are you right now, and where did you grow up, and where were you born, and all that kind of stuff?
L80Parker: Yeah, yeah. So, uh, born in high-level Alberta.
L81Parker: So pretty way up north. Um, and moved around a lot as a kid.
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L88Parker: And, uh, and that's sort of how we live our lives. But yeah, Edmonton, I spent a decade, um, grew up in, uh, a southern Alberta town, kind of a—a nice prairie little,
L89Nix: Perfect.
L90Parker: little house on the prairie kind of a town, uh, what, 8,000 people there. And so we, uh, yeah, we—we had cold winters and, uh, and—and really wild summers.
L91Parker: It was, um, a mix of—it's technically a desert because it gets no rain, but it's also technically a wetland because the water doesn't go anywhere. So it's this weird, weird place.
L92Parker: But, uh, yeah, it's, uh, a really nice place to grow up. Lots of—it was an oil community, so lots of good money in there, lots of, uh, lots of, um, yeah, just—just salt of the earth kind of people.
L93Parker: And so—so that was growing up. And went to university for a few years in Edmonton, uh, decided that the—the engineering wasn't for me on the—on that track.
L94Parker: So we, uh, yeah, so then moved to Kelowna back in—in 2016. And yeah, never looked back.
L95Parker: It's, uh, it's kind of, what's Kelowna?
L96Nix: Gotcha.
L97Parker: I guess it's a little bit like the Florida or the California of Canada. Yeah.
L98Parker: So it's, uh,
L99Nix: I got you. I got you.
L100Parker: it's where a lot of people go to—to retire or to be broke. And
L101Nix: So what—
L102Parker: so yeah, yeah. So a lot of people that I talked to were, are saying, uh, you know, "Oh, yeah, we're out here.
L103Parker: " Like, out west, out in Kelowna, out in Victoria.
L104Nix: Yeah.
L105Parker: Like, things must have gone well for us. And I was like, "Well, I mean, well for you maybe.
L106Parker: " Life stopped, man.
L107Parker: So yeah.
L108Nix: Yeah, life's tough for everybody, I suppose. So what was the— what was the first computer you ever used, and then transition that all the way, if you can, to Omarchy?
L109Nix: And just so you know, there are no time limits. I'm here with you until you're ready to quit.
L110Parker: Cool, cool. Yeah.
L111Parker: Uh, I'll keep it brief. Um, relatively speaking.
L112Parker: Yeah?
L113[redacted: echo]
L114Parker: Yeah? Um, yeah.
L115Parker: So fair enough. Fair enough.
L116Parker: Um, so we've got, uh, what did we get? Our first computer in the home was—it was, uh, the Windows—it must have been Windows 95.
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L118Parker: And she had—she was going to use this computer to—it's just, like, agents now, right? Like, it's—you've got your infinite backlog, and you're like, "Yeah, I'm just going to crush through everything.
L119Parker: " And then you realize that it's an infinite backlog, and now you're going so fast, and it's—you're just hanging on for dear life. So, so that's kind of the—the thing that happened.
L120Parker: Got a computer, got a printer back in—when it must have been—maybe it was, like, I don't know, Windows 3 or something was the—was the name of it, but it—it would have been about 1990. Yeah, it must have been Windows 95.
L121Parker: And, uh, and so we got the computer and the printer, and so all of a sudden there's, you
L122Nix: Right.
L123Parker: know, that blue tack with stickies all over with printed out spreadsheets and—and phone lists. Uh, you're old enough to remember phone lists where we had phone numbers once upon a time.
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L125Parker: And so we, uh, yeah, we—mom had the computer. Until one day we went to, uh, what do they call it?
L126Parker: It's like, uh, it's like an expo, but like the—the local arena, the local hockey rink, uh, cleared off the ice and—and there was just a bunch of booths there. And so we—my brother and I found, uh, the booth for—for Doom 2.
L127Parker: And so we, yeah, we, uh, we just—we just hung out there. And, like, kind of scabbed it and kind of, you know, were just proper mall rats with all the other 13-year-old kids, all the other 8-year-old kids, whatever it was.
L128Parker: And just, yeah, like, minds blown. And we realized that
L129Nix: Right.
L130Parker: our computer couldn't run Doom 2 because it was, like—it was a nice computer maybe 2 years ago or whatever, but then also Doom 2 is, like, expensive. Like, it's a—it's a video game.
L131Parker: It doesn't, you know, it's not a book. It
L132Nix: Right.
L133Parker: doesn't—it's not cheap. So, uh, back in the day when books were cheap and books used to exist.
L134Nix: Right.
L135Parker: But, uh, so—so we looked at getting Wolfenstein 3D and, uh, Doom 1 installed, right? And so—so we went down that road.
L136Parker: We weren't, like, the—the—what is it? That,
L137Nix: Quick.
L138Parker: um, uh, I—I—the—the game is—is failing my mind right now, but it's, uh, it's that space—what is it?
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L140Parker: Quake? Uh, oh, definitely not Quake.
L141Parker: No, that was, uh, we were not—that was our computer for—for it must have
L142Nix: Are you talking about Buck Rogers?
L143Parker: been almost 10 years, until we started getting our own. Yeah, it was—it.
L144Parker: Was like Buck Rogers. It was
L145Nix: Yes.
L146Parker: like, uh, not Space Commander,
L147[redacted: echo]
L148Parker: uh, but like that side scroller. Commander Zim or something?
L149Parker: Commander Kim? Anyway.
L150Parker: Anyway. So, uh, so we—we had our video games growing up.
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L173Parker: That's right.
L174Parker: So, uh, so yeah, we got, uh, lots of video games. And that first PC, the, you know, the first Nintendo Entertainment System for Christmas back in whatever it must have been, '89.
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L176Parker: I was like, "I need a—I need a good computer. I'm going to be a proper student."
L177Parker: And so, uh, I got, uh, my friend was getting into building his own computers. And so he got me on the track of, like, "Oh, yeah, you just go here and order the parts and whatever.
L178Parker: " And my goodness, was it fun. But you just—you're over your head and you're, you're like, like, "Whoa, what kind of a motherboard socket layout is this?
L179Parker: What kind of is it, uh, you know, back in the day? Like, what's the bus for the video card?
L180Parker: " And PCI Express was brand new. And it's like, "Is this PCI or is it PCI Express?
L181Parker: " And—and all of that hardware stuff that goes along with it. And then you fired up for the first time and you're like, "Blue screen!
L182Parker: " And, like, "Do I have the right version of, uh, at the time it was Windows for me?" Because that's what I was familiar with.
L183Parker: And I went through kind of a year of that, uh, cycle on the—the hardware software on the, uh, operating system, just trying to figure out, like, going a different guise in my residence. It was an all guys, uh, residence.
L184Parker: And so going to different guys and saying, like, "Hey, like, we need to figure this out." And there was a couple of tech geeks in there that were able to help.
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L186Parker: But as soon as I had that computer on my own, I realized that without all those other dudes there, it was just hard to—hard to fix. And so I realized, like, if I'm going to be self-sufficient, like, Linux, it's just got to be Linux.
L187Parker: So in 2006, I, uh, put my first install of Linux together. And it was just—it was Ubuntu, right?
L188Parker: Because I wanted it to be simple and clean and—and whatever. And I was just—yeah, I was floored.
L189Parker: Like, the—the feeling there was, like, this is opening all of the doors and so I opened the terminal and it's like, "Oh, I don't—I don't know." Like, I—I used to use, what is it, uh, DOS, where you—you enter your—your command to run
L190Nix: Right.
L191Parker: your game. And as a kid, you know how to do it, but you don't know what you're doing.
L192Parker: So as a kid, like, we—we had a video game called, uh, Ancient Domains of Mystery, which was all ASCII characters as the graphics. And so, you kind of walk your little dude around this ASCII map and—and it's this—it's crazy labyrinth of—of commands and—and shortcuts and—and keyboard sort of joy.
L193Parker: And you're just—you're just flying and you're going through this game and you can basically play it as fast as your computer can run. And so our computer, what we got to, is that we could play the game faster and faster.
L194Parker: And our computer couldn't keep up with us. And so, like, the—the time it took just
L195Nix: Right.
L196Parker: to load and render and all of that kind of stuff, even the ASCII characters, like, we just knew the patterns of what to do. And it's, you know, exactly like—like DHH talks about with—with the—the keyboard kind of thing, that feeling of just, like, the—the workflow efficiencies where, like, you just—you're not thinking anymore.
L197Parker: You're just—you're just in with the computer and you're not—your hands are just doing the stuff and you're kind of watching it happen. And so, so that was the—the first experience was, uh, was—was that game on the—on the keyboard.
L198Parker: Then the first experience on the operating system of, like, total freedom. Like, this is mine now, was installing Linux and—and Ubuntu and seeing, like, "Oh, I can just go and make a background.
L199Parker: I can go make something and—and just put it there." And so that first sort of LS and then learning that, like, LS-A does a different thing than LS does.
L200Parker: And—and that first sort of, like, "Oh, I'm a programmer now." Because you—you learn in
L201Nix: Okay.
L202Parker: engineering first year, you learn some—you learn some C and you learn some—some, like, maybe assembly, just to, like, move a robot around the screen or whatever. But it never quite lands because you're in a class and there's goals and whatever.
L203Parker: But, uh, but yeah, so—so that's that. And, uh, and then now we're 20 years later.
L204Parker: So, so—so that computer went, uh, yeah, go ahead.
L205Nix: Right. So you— you made a couple of— you made a couple of points I want to kind of follow up on that are really interesting.
L206Nix: So you talked about struggling for a year to get things working.
L207Parker: Yeah.
L208Nix: And you also said that you're— and I don't want to paraphrase, but you kind of said you're not afraid to put— you intimated that you're not afraid to put yourself out there, kind of thing.
L209Parker: Mm-hmm.
L210Nix: And I already see that in your character.
L211Nix: So—
L212Nix: Understanding
L213Parker: Hmm.
L214Nix: how it really works in the age of there not really having value in knowing how it works because you learned all those things in that year of struggling without the internet, talking
L215Parker: Mm-hmm.
L216Nix: to people, like, figuring out PCIe versus PCI,
L217Parker: Mm-hmm.
L218Nix: and all those things that were really difficult without being able to Google it and without being able to do those things. And you learned what good looks like.
L219Nix: You're not afraid to put yourself out there. You learned all that stuff.
L220Nix: And now you're in the age of, like, that year of struggle where today would be a three-minute prompt.
L221Parker: That's right.
L222Nix: So where are you putting yourself out there now to push your boundaries? Because
L223Parker: Mm-hmm.
L224Nix: I see you as a person that pushes yourself harder than you believe that you can do it. And I see that already in you.
L225Nix: Where are you pushing the limits now that the things that you struggled with in the past were a problem?
L226Parker: Yeah, that's a good question. So—so two.
L227Parker: Address the—the minimization of problems over time. It's like, people used to wash their clothes in a river.
L228Parker: You know, I go hunting. I know what it's like to go out there; you take your bow, you have a stick, and you need to get this stick through that animal so that you can take it home with you.
L229Parker: It does not want you to do that. And so—and not only that, but, like, nature's trying to kill you.
L230Parker: So it's cold and windy or raining and maybe it's—it's snowing. Like, you're up on the mountain.
L231Parker: Don't break your leg. You've got 160 pounds of meat to pack out now.
L232Parker: And so, like, how do you do that? There's bears.
L233Parker: It's—it's—it's proper engagement and there is no room for—I mean, there's room for you to mess up, but the—if you do mess up in the wrong way, it's—it's pretty catastrophic. And so, honestly, the—the limit for me really goes back down to the—to the basic stuff like that.
L234Parker: And when it gets into computer land, it almost goes the other way of, like, I can't tell when—when I've done something that is outside of the bounds anymore so much. Um, because you build something and it's like,.
L235Parker: You solve a problem, you build something, what am I looking at? I'm looking at the—the guys on the Mac.
L236Parker: I think the—the Omarchy M, um, and the Omarchy
L237Nix: I can't say it right either.
L238Parker: mobile, Omarchy, I should say. Uh, to be proper about it, Omarchy.
L239Parker: Put my—put my—put my pinky up. I—I—I got my—my voice prompt, uh, whatever, whatever voice prompt, uh, preload phrases to, like, really get it dialed so whenever I say Omarchy, it knows.
L240Parker: Um, but it was, yeah, fun thing. So yeah, like you say, the—the problems aren't what they used to be, but it's—I go back to the infinite backlog example.
L241Parker: It's not as though the problems disappear, but when you realize that the—the conveyor belt or the highway of problems that you're—you're addressing is becomes never-ending, then it becomes a sort of choose-your-own-adventure book where you have really important decisions to make. Um, and the world isn't up with it yet.
L242Parker: That's—I think one of the biggest things to—to friction with is that, um, I was talking to some guys yesterday and—and you know, had the—the AI chat, like, "Oh, Jev, this," or, "Oh, LLM that." And—and understandably, when you're mooted in with a business, you can't just claude.
L243Parker: And—and dump all your—your, you know, your proprietary code or your database info or customer stuff into Claude. Like, that's just not an option.
L244Parker: And so it's like, well, then you're looking at, like, uh, Metal AI and stuff like that. And so—so what I'm finding is that, uh, the sort of the—the constraints, the boundaries that—that limit aren't in front of me anymore.
L245Parker: I need to get them beside me so that, uh, the goals that you're aiming for, uh, make better sense. Because when you can do anything—when you can do anything, um, doing everything becomes counterproductive.
L246Parker: And so—so it's like, the limits of what I'm capable of on a computer, it's like, I really have the attitude—it's like, yeah, we can fix everything. We can build the perfect machine.
L247Parker: Should you, like, not interested in should right now, I don't think that I'm—I'm the should guy. I think I'm—I'm not changing things in that way.
L248Parker: So the things that I am changing are, like, well, should I, you know, change this theme? And it's like, well, yeah, of course.
L249Parker: But should I, you know, um, push a company and—and put pressure on them to—to really say, like, AI is the future and the sooner that you onboard, the deeper into the culture it will be, uh, when it becomes a non-option. Because right now it feels like an option, but it's going to be a non-option pretty right around the corner, sooner than later.
L250Parker: And so pressuring people, it's like, should I pressure people? And it's like, well, that's a—that's a harder question to answer.
L251Parker: But for myself, technically, um, yeah, the guardrails have to come up with, like, you can do all of these things, but you can't do every one of the things. And so having prioritization on what is really important, uh, becomes the key to—to—to
L252Nix: You're doing great.
L253Parker: do that. I've kind of lost our question a little bit.
L254Parker: I'm trying to—trying to answer the—the question that you—you seemed that I remember you asking as kind of like in a limitless world, what—what do you find your limitations to—to be and how do they present themselves? And so—so yeah, really just the—the limitations on—on attention.
L255Parker: It really comes down to attention. Is that the world is—is made up of attention.
L256Parker: The world is created by attention. And so what you notice with these agents, when you pay attention to them, the thing gets unbelievably good, unbelievably fast.
L257Parker: When you don't pay attention to them, it kind of has this high entropy decay sort of state, like the slop state. And so attention is the corrective for slop.
L258Parker: And so what you pay attention to, uh, what we pay attention to when we're doing this, uh, futuristic kind of stuff, um, is—is—is managing outcomes, right? We're trying to get the thing.
L259Parker: We have a vision. We're trying to get there.
L260Parker: And so—so So what? Where there was—there was a point that I just had that dropped away.
L261Parker: It was, um, yeah, pushing—pushing the attention and—and really staying in that—that attentional groove. I think that what better smarter more sophisticated engineers than myself, um, are onto is the kinds of things like, uh, graph engineering and loop engineering and the kinds of stuff to manage like agent sets as systems.
L262Parker: And I think the work there is really, really cool. And that's like something that I aspire to and drive towards, but it's just not what—uh,
L263Nix: Right.
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L265Parker: And so there hasn't come a time of—of local LLM or local AI for me to—to go there. It's like, I don't have the hardware for it.
L266Parker: So obviously that's not in. Um, I would love it to be in, but, uh, it's not like I'm struggling and trying to get there.
L267Parker: And then, uh, and then the—the issue of—of like the sort of mega massive multi-agent kind of thing that some
L268Nix: Right.
L269Parker: people are doing, like, oh, I burned through 30 Claude subscriptions, uh, in—in three days or whatever. And it's like, I mean,
L270Nix: Right.
L271Parker: first of all, that's stupid and inefficient. Like, you're—you're definitely doing it wrong, but that kind of idea of—of being able to with more resources, um, produce more, produce more bad products, um, that—that's something that I'm really interested in is like the harness engineering side and the—and the—and the what?
L272Parker: The.
L273Parker: Yeah, one thing—one thing that I has—has anchored it for me to shift gears slightly is with Jev coming out. That was pretty groundbreaking stuff.
L274Parker: And system one type engineering, like decision engineering isn't new. We've been doing it for thousands of years.
L275Parker: Like—like what—how do we make this decision? You go to the Romans and they have a whole way of documenting, writing everything down, putting it through the courts, putting it through the paces, et cetera.
L276Parker: And it's—it's this—it's just not a new thing. And
L277Nix: Right.
L278Parker: so Jev really illustrated like it's not a new thing, but now we can do it in a microsecond. And so—so a slow down a lot from the sort of day-to-day, uh, just keep building, just keep building.
L279Parker: Mode. And literally just read Jev documentation for like five days, like—like 15 hours, of just reading documentation.
L280Parker: And it was really illustrative that
L281Nix: Yeah.
L282Parker: for all of this advancement, the documentation still matters. To read the manual and to understand the problem.
L283Parker: And this goes back to your original question is what do we do with the practice of gaining understanding when that seems not to matter because the end of the—the machine will understand it better?
L284Parker: Is that it's—it's incumbent on us now, I think, more than ever as—as old men, let's say, to—to know when to go fast, but to know when to slow down and to know when to read the documentation, to know when to like go, line by line through, not code maybe, but through the—the ideas to where it lands for me in my usual workflow is—is so I have a—an IDE like sort of story, uh, used to use an IDE, loved it, loved the speed
L285Nix: Yeah.
L286Parker: and the—the, uh, I was on JetBrains, so it was a little bit heavy.
L287Nix: Yeah.
L288Nix: Yeah.
L289Parker: Um, I switched to VS Code for a while and it's like, whoa, so fast. And—and you know, we all have our story, right?
L290Parker: Because that's what we worked on. That was our work surface.
L291Parker: That was our workbench for decades. And so—so the IDE, when it finally died for me, because I was on agentic about three years ago, um, and—and I saw the light with it, but it was like I was just kind of waiting, just like waiting.
L292Parker: It's like this thing can write functions now. This can write good functions now.
L293Parker: This can write—uh, you know, tests to—to establish cases. And—and so we've been on for a ride, right?
L294Parker: And, um, and so I knew that agentic was a thing, but it didn't occur to me that the IDE wasn't the correct, uh, work surface for this until—until, yeah, basically, November, maybe October. Yeah, October I think 2025.
L295Parker: So like a year ago basically.
L296Nix: Right.
L297Parker: Today, when it's like, oh, you can run these things in a terminal. You just fired up in a terminal and—and get direct interaction.
L298Parker: And to me, that didn't feel any different than texting back and forth with it as a chatbot kind of, as a very advanced chatbot. What changed was when we started recognizing markdowns as very useful.
L299Parker: But markdowns are just so much reading. And so then kind of maybe February, March of this year, um, realizing that HTML was actually a really nice way because it's so simple and—and straightforward, a really nice way for agents to, uh, convey like dense information and to essentially put documentation up that, uh, that is useful.
L300Parker: And so I realized to interact with your agent it's like typing into the prompt box is this sort of, uh, transient way of doing it. But if you get them to escalate a decision brief up to you, that has—you know, cool graphics and—and interesting
L301Nix: There it is.
L302Parker: things to look at to keep your attention, again, it's with attention, that, um, that you tell it, well, give me—give every element a commentable, uh, box. And so you can now comment on everything, right?
L303Parker: And then realizing that you can tell it, okay, now make a button to just like feed this back into the prompt box. And so it feeds the—the HTML map of your comments back in.
L304Parker: And the agent has the file, the agent has the map, and the agent just goes back to it. And so you're not prompting through the terminal anymore, but the terminal is sort of
L305Nix: Yep.
L306Parker: that, uh, focal point where everything comes together. And then because I—I built this terminal work surface, um, to do like multi-agent stuff and keep myself organized and made it all colorful and themable.
L307Parker: So—so when—when all of that was happening, it's like basically if you had a crash or if—if you accidentally wiped your prompt, like Control C is copy but Control C is also wipe your prompt in—in a lot of terminals. So it's like well, shoot, like how do we manage that?
L308Parker: And Omarchy's done it actually really well, uh, with—with Super C. I—that's Super
L309Nix: Right. Right.
L310Parker: C is—is killer. Um, such a simple thing, but it's like now you don't, you know, wipe your prompt out.
L311Parker: So—so little stuff, but, uh, what I realized was when I looked at other people who are bigger and better than me, like Herder and like, um, Human Layer and, uh, who else is doing it? Anyway, the—the other—other terminal players for building these agentic work surfaces, uh, in—in a way that's nice, is that they had gone headless.
L312Parker: And so you could kind of open and close terminals, blah, blah, blah. And, uh, and run them, you know, non-locally and all that cool stuff.
L313Parker: And so the other code that got cracked with the whole HTML markdown interactivity was getting the.
L314Parker: Getting the—the terminal process separated from the terminal rendering. So kind of going headless.
L315Parker: So the terminal process is—it ends up being this—I'll just flip a—a screen share because it might be easier to show than it is to tell.
L316Nix: This is fascinating.
L317Parker: Uh, I literally haven't been on Zoom for like three years. Disabled share.
L318Parker: Would you do a screen share?
L319Nix: Oh, sure. Sure.
L320Nix: Sure.
L321Parker: Yeah.
L322Nix: Do you want me to screen share, or are you going to screen share?
L323Parker: No, all screen share.
L324Nix: Yeah, please do.
L325Parker: Okay, so I've got a host disabled attendee screen sharing. So if you're not able to—to enable that, then we don't have to worry about it.
L326Nix: Yeah. That's a problem.
L327Nix: Share settings?
L328Nix: Choose individual windows. Preview.
L329Nix: Advanced.
L330Nix: I did not know that I had that turned off.
L331Nix: Shoot.
L332Parker: It's a nice little security. So did you—are you recording with that Omarchy,
L333Nix: Meeting recorder?
L334Parker: uh, what is it, the—the, um, yeah.
L335Parker: Meeting recorder?
L336Nix: All right. It's either by TC Ballard or Jenkins, one or the other.
L337Nix: I get those guys confused.
L338Nix: Yeah.
L339Parker: Yeah, I—I—there's so much going on. It's
L340Nix: Right.
L341Parker: like whose face belongs to what thing and nobody really wants credit. Like that's not what we're doing here.
L342Parker: Um, but—but it's like it's good to know like, uh, like—like, uh, Tom Ballard with his, uh, with his familiar plugin. It's like that's—that's pretty killer work.
L343Parker: That's like—that's actually a really big deal. And, uh, and—and this meeting on the Omarchy thing, it's like, yeah, that's going to—that's going to sync for Omarchy users quite a lot of, uh, I don't want to say like revenue or anything, but quite a lot of, uh, clout, I'll say, uh, knowing that—that, um, here we go.
L344Nix: See if you can share now.
L345Parker: There we go. Yeah.
L346Nix: There we go. Oh, I love it.
L347Parker: Yeah.
L348Nix: I love it. I saw this on Twitter now that I see what you're yeah.
L349Nix: I've seen this, but I haven't seen what you're about to tell me.
L350Parker: Okay, so—so what I'll tell you right now, so you've got all of your—your whole
L351Nix: Did you make this? This looks like Herder.
L352Parker: set of—of agents running your terminals. These are all terminal sessions.
L353Parker: Uh, it's—it's actually a lot like Herder.
L354Nix: Can I get a repo?
L355Parker: Uh, I made this completely independent of them. Like I started this back in February because I strapped my ID—what's that?
L356Nix: Can I get a repo on this?
L357Nix: Oh, sweet.
L358Parker: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll—I'll link it afterwards.
L359Parker: Um, yeah, it's—it's—it's, um, yeah, really a—a craft of love and—and something that I really care about. And so
L360Nix: 70s.
L361Nix: Yeah.
L362Parker: the style is—is really what, uh, what
L363Nix: Yeah.
L364Parker: changed. So it could be 70s.
L365Parker: You can turn—you know, CRT off. You could re-theme it so that you're like—like what?
L366Parker: Um,
L367Nix: Oh, man. This is awesome.
L368Nix: I'm going from Herder to this immediately.
L369Parker: well, I mean, try it out. Yeah, see how—see how you like it.
L370Nix: Right.
L371Parker: But, uh, changing sort of like—oh, the text isn't quite right or the colors aren't quite right. I need a little more contrast or—or whatever the thing is.
L372Nix: Yep. Yep.
L373Nix: Nice.
L374Parker: The—the classic IDE problem of like trying to zoom in like so the control zoom and—and so—so the big unlock here was, okay, so you've got all these terminal sessions running and look, you just close it down.
L375Parker: Open it back up.
L376Nix: Right here.
L377Nix: Yeah.
L378Parker: Everything's still going because the processes are still going. And to the point of like, because it's a terminal process, it's like you type in your prompt, you're half done, close
L379Nix: Right.
L380Parker: this down, opens up, prompt is still there, right? Because the process is still running.
L381Parker: And so—so that little unlock was—was pretty cool to get, um, along with like what's the HTML, uh, look like? Where is it?
L382Parker: Uh, let's close all these down and just go to maybe Cinnamon Delight probably has some—something to look at. Uh, MP4s.
L383Parker: MP4s.
L384Nix: You really—it's working.
L385Parker: Here.
L386Parker: So we'll work flow, right? Like when you're really in the flow, you really want to—to stay on.
L387Parker: Like—like maybe you don't run, maybe—I mean, I see you've got some—some arrows and a bird in the back that looks like—like, uh, a bird hunting implication, but you're not going to catch
L388Nix: That's right. You nailed it.
L389[redacted: echo]
L390Parker: a hummingbird with those arrows. I'll tell you what.
L391Parker: I've seen. I've seen those guys move and you're not catching a hummingbird with that—that kind of a—a big—big beefy stick.
L392Parker: Anyway, um, but when you're—when you're really—really on the path, when you're really plotting along, when you feel like you've got everything rolling and that all that momentum, you—if you context switch, even to like
L393Nix: Yeah. And you lose the flow state.
L394Parker: open your HTML, you swing over here and, uh, I don't—yeah, you kind of—you have to come out of it, reestablish, then you got to, you know, look at some files and it just—it just changes your mind a little bit. And so staying in, staying in, staying in is really what I'm going for for that—that lock-in.
L395Parker: And then when you disengage, uh, you—you do it intentionally. You—you intentionally, you're disengaging, you're going over
L396Nix: Mm-hmm.
L397Parker: to something else. So you're going to a—a Twitter X.
L398Parker: You're going to, you know, a meeting. You're going somewhere else.
L399Parker: And so really being there is—is what the goal is with this, uh, attentional surface. Um, but—but yeah, so we popped open an HTML, um, I don't know if I told my guys to turn this into.
L400Parker: Yeah, we got some comments. So we've got one frame from each beat.
L401Parker: Uh, so you can throw your comments in there. Yes, because just yes, everything.
L402Parker: Why not?
L403Parker: Yolo.
L404Nix: Right.
L405Nix: Nice.
L406Parker: And then you come, come down, keep reading your docs, always read your bloody docs. Uh, it'll give you your decisions because it's a decision brief.
L407Parker: What are your—your inflection
L408Nix: Nice.
L409Parker: points that you're flagging here? And then, you know, stamp a concur onto it.
L410Parker: Uh, just to—just to say like, yeah, yes, all, whatever. Uh, but then the—the really cool
L411Nix: Yeah, I can see it. I can see it.
L412Parker: thing is this, uh, you probably can't see it and I'm not going to be able to zoom, uh, copy map. Uh, lets you copy and paste if you're a Luddite
L413Nix: Yep. Save and send to agent.
L414Nix: Yep.
L415Parker: living in, you know, 2025. But just say save and send and then this is contextual, right?
L416Parker: Like this HTML is in
L417Nix: Whoa.
L418Parker: this—in this—uh, place. So it sends to this agent.
L419Parker: And so the prompt is auto done.
L420Parker: So that.
L421Nix: Yeah. Yeah.
L422Nix: You're looking at minimizing steps in workflow that slow you down, and you're parsing things together that need to keep moving without having to cut your flow state.
L423Parker: That's right. And so the decision is—is made very quickly and—and so you can establish, you know, when you reopen that HTML, you can establish what you're thinking.
L424Parker: You just, you know, voice to text, you can say, oh, this part of the song, uh, the French horn is really tinny, we need to change the tone. And so it'll dump that in there.
L425Parker: Uh, probably I've got my mouse over here, so emoji is going to get confused about where we are, but anyway, um, so you—you talk to text it, dump it in there. Uh, and—and yeah, like you say, get that—that decision closer to—closer—get the layers between you making the decision and the agent seeing the decision.
L426Parker: Just closer and closer and closer.
L427Nix: Mm-hmm.
L428Parker: Um, and—and the interactivity for me doing like some of this video stuff.
L429Nix: Yeah.
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L431Parker: There's an HTML. So in here, it's the same kind of thing.
L432Parker: We got some whatever architectural map. It's saying APIs.
L433Parker: It's saying users. It's saying databases.
L434Parker: It's saying, you know, Cloudflare R2, blah, blah, blah.
L435Parker: It's giving you all of this stuff and you need to, uh, flag it as useful, not useful, or—or impactful and requires decision. Uh, and—and just go on and on and—and you just go through these things and it's—it's a—a way to slow down and to get your attention kind of right here right now.
L436Parker: Like why did you open this document? If you're not going to read
L437Nix: Right.
L438Parker: it, then just click concur all and let the agent fly. Um, which is, you know, a valid strategy is
L439Nix: What's your GitHub user?
L440Parker: just like get back—get to the finish and—and get back to me kind of a thing. But, uh, um, what is it?
L441Parker: Parker Brown family all with, uh, with dashes. With hyphens.
L442Nix: I'm not kidding you when I tell you that I'm going to run this thing if you will give me—I don't see Parker Brown family on GitHub.
L443Parker: Uh, yeah, let me—let's see here. Where can we?
L444Nix: I really, really, if you will share this with me, I really want this.
L445Parker: Oh, it's—it's all open source. Terminal Delight's fully open source.
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L449Parker: You got it.
L450Nix: Man, you're all over the map in a cool way. Suits, and hunting, and code, and business, and you mesh and merge so many different things.
L451Nix: I feel that.
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L454Parker: So it's, uh, yeah, so—so back to that question of—of what's the limit? And it's like you need—you need guardrails.
L455Parker: Some people, I think, are like—are really quite focused and they can work on a thing and get it done. And that's super cool, but, uh, but for guys like me, it's, um,
L456Nix: Yes.
L457Parker: it's—it's the sort of
L458Nix: Right.
L459Parker: self-destructive unlock that lets you just spiral out of control and do a bunch of mistakes a lot faster.
L460Parker: And so it's, uh, I mean, the cool thing with this emoji, uh, the—the way that the path is kind of taken me along was, uh, yeah, it's like you realize there's a gap. It's no one's making
L461Nix: Uh-huh.
L462Parker: super cool, like really—really musically impactful content. And it's like, well, it's telling stories.
L463Parker: It's just little things,
L464Nix: Yes.
L465Parker: like a little 30-second or a one-minute clip telling a cool story. And, uh, and yeah, so this one, uh, [redacted].
L466Parker: And so that's what kind of inspired this whole idea. Is to like, well, you know, today and emoji, but also like this month and emoji and also like the year of Linux is 2026.
L467Parker: And so like how big do the ideas get? And so that's where the music anchoring it down really—really comes in.
L468Nix: Nice.
L469Parker: And so yeah, you can use agents to write music. Why not?
L470Nix: Wow.
L471Nix: Do you use Suno or something like that, or where do you get your music from?
L472Parker: No, it's all—it's all totally self-produced. It's like agents can write music.
L473Parker: Like I don't mean—I don't mean like mix music or remix music. I mean like this is all scratch done tracks like basically done MIDI style the way that a composer would do it.
L474Parker: And then you go in there with your like profoundly good musical taste you'd basically tell it like, oh, you know, the—the tone here or the voices here, whatever musical terms, if you're musical, uh, you'll kind of know what I'm getting at. But.
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L513Nix: Absolutely. Absolutely.
L514Parker: that we, uh, we all need, and we— we don't realize we're
L515Nix: Yes.
L516Parker: thirsting for it with, um, with a lot of this technology in the socials. Is, uh, we're just looking for connection, we're just looking for other people, and— and we'll get lost on it and be like, well, isn't that flashy, and— and that makes me feel nice, or that makes me feel angry,
L517Nix: All right.
L518Parker: whatever the, the, you know, emotion de jure is. Uh, but— but really we're looking for, for just human connection, and it is that simple.
L519Parker: And even though it's simple, the simple things are rarely easy, so simple and hard is the way, and, uh, you know, taking the time to do these meetings, it's, uh, it's simple to do, but, you know, it's much appreciated, because I know it's not easy.
L520Parker: Yeah.
L521Nix: I appreciate it. So as we wrap—
L522Nix: To terminal delight?
L523Parker: Oh, sure, yeah, yeah. I don't know how exactly it's going to go.
L524Parker: I
L525Nix: Of course.
L526Parker: put some— put some guardrails
L527Nix: Of course.
L528Parker: on there so it doesn't— if it does take off a little bit, it should be manageable and whatever, but, uh, yeah, totally open to ideas and stuff like that. Um,
L529Nix: So when IPR for
L530Parker: yeah.
L531Nix: folks, I spent— so I have Claude Codex, Kimmy, Grok, all of them. And so when IPR for folks, I specifically say, "You're not trying to add any features.
L532Nix: You're not trying to change the design. Just look for things
L533Parker: Yep.
L534Nix: that are could be problematic in the code itself." And so if you get a PR for me, that's what it'll be like.
L535Nix: That's what it will be— I don't think that you need any help at all with the design. And I'm not even suggesting that there's errors in the code, but if I find some, I will PR them.
L536Parker: Cool, yeah, yeah. Appreciate the tokens.
L537Parker: Um, the— yeah, because it's
L538Nix: Of course.
L539Parker: terminal, there's been some, like, very significant decisions of, like, okay, so do you want an agent with an open-source terminal project to just be able to grab a terminal?
L540Nix: Right. Right.
L541Parker: That's—
L542Nix: That's a— there's pros and cons there. I can see really quickly, and things that you might benefit from, and lots of ways to get burned.
L543Parker: Lots of ways to get burned. And so, like, for myself,
L544Nix: Right.
L545Parker: I'll 100,000% just like, yeah, agents get terminals. What do you— what do we do in here?
L546Parker: But, um, it's— it's a computer, and the agent's driving, so it's like, you'll, you know, tell it where to go or whatever, but it's— it's, yeah, it's going. But, uh, but to do that into an open-source side of it, and it's like, oh, no, like, that's a lot more careful.
L547Parker: And so when I first did that, I— I kept stumbling over that decision of, like, oh, yeah, like, of course we'll do this thing, because it's exciting and new and— and— and big, but, uh, but yeah, putting the— the constraint on there of, like, wait a second, like, that is a security and—
L548Nix: All right. All right.
L549Parker: and open-source kind of a, a— I don't want to say a nightmare, but a rats' nest for sure. And so— so what you might find is some, like, little sort of ragged, loose ends
L550Nix: Sure.
L551Parker: of ideas that happened and then got tamped down. So it'll be really interesting to see, you know, what your— what your guys uncover.
L552Parker: Um, but yeah, to finish off the idea with terminal delight, uh, it went headless, um, even to the point of, like, if you— if you close down the terminal,
L553Nix: Awesome. Awesome.
L554Parker: you can re-grab it back.
L555Nix: Yeah.
L556Parker: It's like, oh, shoot, I wasn't quite done with that, actually. Um, that kind of stuff.
L557Parker: It comes at the cost. There's always trade-offs, because then that terminal process is still running, that agent might still be running.
L558Parker: Um, but at least if you accidentally— you know, hot key and fat finger yourself out of a— a process that was running, it's not, you know, go find an agent, tell it to search for that session that you had going, that you need to recover, and— and it's all this friction.
L559Nix: I love it.
L560Parker: So— so yeah. And then the— the— the trash bin is, like, when you are done with
L561Nix: Yes.
L562Parker: your thread. I think it's really important to have hygiene with our agents and our terminals.
L563Nix: Amazing.
L564Parker: So you— you
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L566Parker: tie off end— end hard and just trash bin it,
L567Nix: Just like you said—
L568Parker: and, uh, and it's a little bit of fun, so. And then, yeah, like, tons.
L569Parker: Of— tons of features. It's— it's been everything that, like, this is it, is, like, we can fix everything and so you're like, shoot, like, I need this thing here, and so agent usage.
L570Nix: Leave that screen up. I
L571Parker: Yeah.
L572Nix: want to give you an idea that I've not seen. I do it, but I've not seen it from anybody else, and it's okay if you—
L573Parker: Yeah.
L574Nix: if IPR something and you don't like it, you own the code. I don't take it personally.
L575Nix: What I would suggest you add to this, and it is phenomenal—
L576Nix: But add your banked time and your banked time is like how far ahead you are on your subscription, so you know you can burn harder.
L577Parker: I don't know— I don't know what you're talking about.
L578Nix: Okay.
L579Parker: I'm not going to lie.
L580Nix: All right.
L581Parker: Yeah.
L582Nix: So right there, we see that you've got— you're at 67% of your time. Let me show you real fast.
L583Parker: Yeah, yeah.
L584Parker: I— I've never heard of this bank time. I know there's, like, resets or whatever, but—
L585Nix: Yeah. So let me share my screen, and I think it'll make more sense to you.
L586Parker: Good.
L587Nix: And then while I'm pulling this
L588Parker: Mm-hmm.
L589Nix: up, let me— I would like you to— there's a couple more questions, and I want to run past you. Okay.
L590Nix: So when I get done with the Zoom for this, I don't do anything.
L591Parker: Nice.
L592Nix: Larry, my agent, sees the meeting ended, he grabs the transcription,
L593Parker: Mm-hmm.
L594Nix: processes it, puts it up on Omarchy.builders, writes the exposed, and then puts it on my—
L595Nix: Puts it on my clipboard, and then I post it. So my last thing I want you to talk about is, is there anything in here that you don't want to be public that you have said?
L596Parker: No, no, we're all go.
L597Parker: All go.
L598Nix: Okay. Good.
L599Nix: All right. I'm going to replace your share.
L600Nix: I'm going to share out— all right. So—
L601Nix: So this is a plug.
L602Nix: That I made called Burn Bar.
L603Parker: Yes.
L604Nix: And it's right— and what I mean by banked time is
L605Parker: Okay.
L606Nix: this arrow represents my subscription week, and it's all on all of them. And so if I were to burn the exact amount of tokens that it takes to burn
L607Parker: Okay.
L608Nix: on pace, all week long, then the idea
L609Parker: Yeah.
L610Nix: is that you get to 1% when you hit the reset. So I've only used 7% of my weekly budget on Claude.
L611Parker: How dare you.
L612Nix: So that means that I've got 40% banked. That means if I burn hard, I'm still under pace.
L613Parker: Oh, I see what you're saying. So— so based on the different session limits, because codecs and claude have a different 7-day versus 5-day session limit relationship.
L614Parker: Cool.
L615Nix: Yes. And Burn Bar accounts for that.
L616Nix: So go to my GitHub, Nick's Nix, and look for Burn Bar, and then grab the code out of that to use it for yours. Because banked for me is the most important thing.
L617Parker: Yeah.
L618Nix: And if I get closer and I can't find one because I haven't been using it, it'll say on pace, and on pace means I'm using it at the right level that I'll— that I won't run out.
L619Nix: That's right.
L620Parker: Oh, so— so you're 5-hour or whatever time limit, and your weekly time limit are meshed at that point.
L621Parker: Oh, that's cool.
L622Nix: Right. And so it takes it to the next level that when I kick off— I've got all these subscriptions.
L623Nix: When I kick off a terminal, if I allow it to, it will call out and use agents, and the goal is to efficiently use them all so that every one of them, when they get to their reset, is at 1% left.
L624Nix: Right.
L625Parker: That's right, yeah, yeah. And that feels good, like, when you— when you hit the weekend or when you hit your end of work,
L626Nix: Right.
L627Parker: that you're— you're sitting at, like, 3% and you're like, hey, one last thing, and— and that's it. So that's—
L628Nix: I get it. Just ideas.
L629Parker: yeah, I— I'm going to be honest, I don't have that on my plate or bandwidth. That's— that's— I would— if you already have that plugin, you should be able to basically just, like, give an agent terminal delight and say, like, make this plugin for terminal delight, uh, put it in the subscription panel as a separate tab, and you're off to the races.
L630Nix: Oh, oh, oh. I'm— give me 15 minutes.
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L632Nix: I already have my agents working on PRs for you. Again, if you don't like it, throw it away.
L633Nix: I don't take it personally. It's not that level.
L634Nix: But go grab Burn Bar, and if you want, you can use that code. I would— you can just install Burn Bar and use it on your system to just see— you don't have to add it to your system.
L635Nix: Just use Burn Bar itself.
L636Parker: Yeah, I think that's really cool. I'm on the other side of it.
L637Parker: I'm like— I'm on the other side of the— the bank. Like, I'm on— I'm on debt all the time.
L638Nix: Right. Right.
L639Parker: So— so I'm— I'm burning my fi—
L640Nix: Well, that'll help you to know what to use and when to use and help you stay on pace.
L641Parker: True, true. Um, yeah, I mean, super cool.
L642Parker: Where's, um— where do I put this stuff?
L643Parker: Uh, burn bar.
L644Nix: Go to Nick's Nix on GitHub and then search for Burn Bar.
L645Nix: And I'm not special, but I see everybody telling me what the percent of it is. And it occurred to me one day, I want to know where I am in the process.
L646Nix: And
L647Parker: Yeah, that's right.
L648Nix: the reason I'm so far behind is because I've had so many conversations for hours now that I'm not actually coding, which is kind of cool.
L649Parker: I mean, yeah, I appreciate it. The— that attention really matters, right?
L650Parker: That attention really shows, um, I think the— the really cool thing, honestly, with agent— uh, agentic and— and where we and people are at, is where your attention go is going becomes more obvious.
L651Nix: Yes.
L652Parker: Especially if you're building publicly, is that when you paid attention
L653Nix: That's right.
L654Parker: to this or that, it got good. And when you didn't, it didn't.
L655Parker: And so— you know, I see— I see these little— little— little now, like, you just started whatever last week, these little meetings, like, this is a— this is a little thing, but there's 200,000 Omarchy users. And if even 1% of them are contributing in even a small way, you're— you've got your hands full for a while.
L656Nix: Oh, man. It's been amazing.
L657Nix: And every one of them, it's been amazing in a different way.
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L665Parker: Um, yeah, so it's, uh— yeah, you know, we don't— we don't know where any of this is going at all. There's a lot of people that are— are
L666Nix: Right.
L667Parker: doom and glooming it. There's a lot of people that are hyper-optimistic, like, frightfully optimistic.
L668Parker: Um, and— and it's like, for— for us normally down— down here in the trenches, it's kind of like, well, I mean, it's really cool, but, like, yeah, we— even the guys at the top, I don't think really see this thing. And so it's— it's a little bit scary.
L669Parker: It's a little bit too fast. It's a little bit— uh, you know, a little bit of everything.
L670Parker: And, you know, is it going to— going to— oh, I think my— my guy's doing your burn bar.
L671Parker: Yeah.
L672Nix: Nice.
L673Nix: Nice.
L674Parker: Yeah, I can see your burn bar coming up right now. Um, yeah, it's— it's saying, I'm— I'm way in debt on all my agents.
L675Parker: 67%, uh, spent, 43%. So— so that's good to see.
L676Parker: I like to— I like to kind of burn things out and— and give myself time to step away from the computer if I'm— if
L677Nix: Yeah. Well, now you'll know.
L678Nix: Now you'll know.
L679Parker: I'm massively on token debt mode. Kind of a thing.
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L683Parker: So— so yeah, really cool, that burn bar. Man, does that ever look hideous, though, on the— on the toolbar?
L684Parker: Is that— that's just— that must be something on my setup. I can probably tune that, but, uh, it's just like a bunch of—
L685Nix: Yeah. Please PR it if you see a problem.
L686Nix: PR. Please PR me.
L687Parker: Yeah, I mean, the— the dashboard itself, though, is, like, a really slick— I love the— I love the style. And I see that you're doing lots of stuff, and I don't know what to make because there's so much stuff.
L688Parker: And, um, and I really love Omarchy of the box, so I— for most of the stuff, and I know that you're not going to take offense to it,
L689Nix: I get it.
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L693Parker: just don't have the attention to— to tinker— tinker with it on that level. Yeah, so.
L694Nix: I get it. Respect, man.
L695Nix: Thank you so much for spending this much time with me.
L696Nix: Like I said, it'll kick off, put it on Omarchy, dot builders, I will post a little lead-up and mention you please retweet for your own sake. And hope to get to talk to you another time sometime soon.
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